1 00:00:05,150 --> 00:00:02,540 thinking higher thoughts core connection 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:05,160 to the absolute the opposite of stress I 3 00:00:09,860 --> 00:00:08,370 should also point out that there were 4 00:00:11,540 --> 00:00:09,870 people who said they couldn't really put 5 00:00:12,830 --> 00:00:11,550 into words some of these states so they 6 00:00:14,839 --> 00:00:12,840 did their best that that's of course 7 00:00:17,900 --> 00:00:14,849 always a problem in describing higher 8 00:00:19,970 --> 00:00:17,910 consciousness group results for 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:19,980 perceived relationship between the 10 00:00:23,330 --> 00:00:21,810 adjectives that I provided in the 40 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:23,340 Hertz states were as follows I'll have 12 00:00:27,980 --> 00:00:26,010 to move quickly as you notice the peak 13 00:00:30,679 --> 00:00:27,990 value there although they're the 14 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:30,689 standard deviations are high but at the 15 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:33,090 top of the list is happiness in a loving 16 00:00:39,619 --> 00:00:35,489 state and the others are all down the 17 00:00:41,630 --> 00:00:39,629 line and negative associations were with 18 00:00:44,170 --> 00:00:41,640 the adjectives disappointment stress 19 00:00:46,549 --> 00:00:44,180 distress alertness focus concentration 20 00:00:48,529 --> 00:00:46,559 the comparison of meditators and 21 00:00:50,029 --> 00:00:48,539 non-meditators baseline values we did 22 00:00:51,740 --> 00:00:50,039 not see a difference this is in 23 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:51,750 contradiction to the earlier literature 24 00:00:57,830 --> 00:00:54,239 gathered by Davidson at all however my 25 00:00:59,840 --> 00:00:57,840 group was small three meditators so far 26 00:01:02,810 --> 00:00:59,850 in the study and seven non-meditators 27 00:01:05,420 --> 00:01:02,820 however during the maximizing 40 Hertz 28 00:01:07,969 --> 00:01:05,430 during the near neurofeedback period we 29 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:07,979 did see a highly significant difference 30 00:01:12,410 --> 00:01:10,080 between non meditators who didn't do 31 00:01:15,830 --> 00:01:12,420 better than 10% some actually went down 32 00:01:20,929 --> 00:01:15,840 and meditators who were up between 23 33 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:20,939 and 36% more 40 Hertz now I want to show 34 00:01:26,450 --> 00:01:24,720 you one case of volunteer who took 35 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:26,460 salvia divinorum which is an entheogen 36 00:01:30,380 --> 00:01:28,650 is a psychedelic herb used in shamanic 37 00:01:33,580 --> 00:01:30,390 ceremonies by indigenous healers in 38 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:33,590 Mexico it's legal 39 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:35,759 twenty-eight-year-old volunteer who had 40 00:01:41,510 --> 00:01:39,329 previously experienced this herb just 41 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:41,520 show you how the time kinetics of it I 42 00:01:47,020 --> 00:01:44,450 took a measurement at 7:37 p.m. baseline 43 00:01:50,420 --> 00:01:47,030 7:45 p.m. she smoked salvia and 44 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:50,430 experienced a peak intensity 10 minutes 45 00:01:56,090 --> 00:01:53,130 to 15 minutes later and then already at 46 00:01:58,789 --> 00:01:56,100 8:04 there was a coming down from the 47 00:02:01,730 --> 00:01:58,799 state of post peak intensity and finally 48 00:02:06,289 --> 00:02:01,740 she felt fully recovered at 818 p.m. so 49 00:02:07,370 --> 00:02:06,299 it's less than an hour I have very 50 00:02:09,619 --> 00:02:07,380 little time but just to show you 51 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:09,629 something about her baseline and focus 52 00:02:13,190 --> 00:02:11,970 on this this is a brain spectrogram so 53 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:13,200 we have one minute of time 54 00:02:18,470 --> 00:02:15,690 versus frequency mostly she's in the 55 00:02:19,910 --> 00:02:18,480 relaxed mode ten Hertz or less with 56 00:02:22,820 --> 00:02:19,920 occasional bursts up at higher 57 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:22,830 frequencies during the peak state 58 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:24,450 however there's a lot of I blank that's 59 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:25,890 what all these green lines are and there 60 00:02:32,809 --> 00:02:31,140 was a lot of movement and the subject as 61 00:02:35,420 --> 00:02:32,819 you see the brainwaves are now enhanced 62 00:02:38,990 --> 00:02:35,430 in all frequencies the lower frequencies 63 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:39,000 are just are off the scale actually and 64 00:02:48,140 --> 00:02:44,209 there are also activity of 40 Hertz etc 65 00:02:50,509 --> 00:02:48,150 and then coming down from the peak 66 00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:50,519 experience you see a relaxation in the 67 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:53,700 brain spectrogram and finally at the end 68 00:02:59,360 --> 00:02:57,090 point it's curious because now you can 69 00:03:01,670 --> 00:02:59,370 actually see a depletion in the focus 70 00:03:04,370 --> 00:03:01,680 function this software also measures 71 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:04,380 focus and alertness and this is actually 72 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:05,970 not looking at all like her recovered 73 00:03:10,850 --> 00:03:07,530 state even though she's purportedly 74 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:10,860 feeling recovered this is the percent 75 00:03:16,009 --> 00:03:13,110 difference over her baseline scores in 76 00:03:18,020 --> 00:03:16,019 her self-reported state of pre well the 77 00:03:19,970 --> 00:03:18,030 priests state before the entheogen the 78 00:03:21,770 --> 00:03:19,980 peak experienced the post peak and 79 00:03:24,979 --> 00:03:21,780 recovered so these are subjective states 80 00:03:27,020 --> 00:03:24,989 or aspects of the experience and during 81 00:03:30,650 --> 00:03:27,030 the peak actually she experienced a 82 00:03:33,530 --> 00:03:30,660 twenty - twenty plus percent diminution 83 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:33,540 in forty Hertz post peak that increased 84 00:03:37,789 --> 00:03:35,489 and then as she recovered it became 85 00:03:41,059 --> 00:03:37,799 similar to baseline so it's a bifurcated 86 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:41,069 response first below baseline and then 87 00:03:47,330 --> 00:03:45,510 above conclusions are as follows 88 00:03:48,770 --> 00:03:47,340 experienced meditators who presumably 89 00:03:51,259 --> 00:03:48,780 cultivate higher states of consciousness 90 00:03:52,759 --> 00:03:51,269 can produce greater amplitudes of forty 91 00:03:55,030 --> 00:03:52,769 Hertz from the prefrontal region than 92 00:03:57,050 --> 00:03:55,040 non-meditators during neurofeedback 93 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:57,060 descriptions of the forty Hertz state 94 00:04:00,860 --> 00:03:58,650 were similar in meditators and 95 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:00,870 non-meditators with feelings of bliss 96 00:04:05,870 --> 00:04:03,510 and love as being most prevalent salvia 97 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:05,880 divinorum produced abrupt changes in 98 00:04:09,289 --> 00:04:07,200 forty Hertz brain waves with a 99 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:09,299 substantial decrease at peak experience 100 00:04:13,819 --> 00:04:11,130 followed by a substantial increase 101 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:13,829 before returning to baseline the 102 00:04:17,449 --> 00:04:15,690 limitations of the study the study is 103 00:04:19,069 --> 00:04:17,459 small it's incomplete still in progress 104 00:04:21,740 --> 00:04:19,079 I only have three meditators but 105 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:21,750 hopefully I'd like to get equal numbers 106 00:04:25,339 --> 00:04:23,610 of meditators and non-meditators and do 107 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:25,349 a statistical analysis of the 108 00:04:29,129 --> 00:04:26,860 quantitative aspects 109 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:29,139 in the end also the salvia divinorum 110 00:04:33,149 --> 00:04:30,969 case is singular and mayor not be 111 00:04:34,649 --> 00:04:33,159 representative and I should also say 112 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:34,659 that it's very difficult to describe 113 00:04:38,369 --> 00:04:36,639 interstates of higher consciousness in 114 00:04:40,469 --> 00:04:38,379 words and that of course puts 115 00:04:41,420 --> 00:04:40,479 limitations on on what we can gather 116 00:04:43,740 --> 00:04:41,430 about it 117 00:04:45,209 --> 00:04:43,750 questions for further study that relate 118 00:04:48,089 --> 00:04:45,219 to some of our interest in this group 119 00:04:50,249 --> 00:04:48,099 are does training gamma brainwaves help 120 00:04:52,020 --> 00:04:50,259 improve meditation and or increase the 121 00:04:54,420 --> 00:04:52,030 experience of higher states of 122 00:04:56,159 --> 00:04:54,430 consciousness and secondly does training 123 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:56,169 gamma brainwaves from the prefrontal 124 00:05:01,170 --> 00:04:59,050 region help open the so-called third eye 125 00:05:03,659 --> 00:05:01,180 and improved subject performance and 126 00:05:05,580 --> 00:05:03,669 healing and SCI research studies those 127 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:05,590 questions remain to be seen and I hope 128 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:17,050 to explore them thank you I would like 129 00:05:22,379 --> 00:05:19,120 to indulge in the pleasure of the first 130 00:05:25,790 --> 00:05:22,389 question and this is we do so much with 131 00:05:28,709 --> 00:05:25,800 the brain and I keep going to the heart 132 00:05:30,829 --> 00:05:28,719 and wondering is there a way to dovetail 133 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:30,839 some of this research with the heart 134 00:05:34,829 --> 00:05:33,009 considering that many of the statements 135 00:05:38,010 --> 00:05:34,839 that were made were really coming from a 136 00:05:40,649 --> 00:05:38,020 place of what we say heart and there are 137 00:05:44,999 --> 00:05:40,659 so many heart attacks and heart ailments 138 00:05:48,269 --> 00:05:45,009 in society that maybe that higher state 139 00:05:50,999 --> 00:05:48,279 we may be missing something well of 140 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:51,009 course there have been other studies I'd 141 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:55,050 say particularly looking at coherence of 142 00:06:00,659 --> 00:05:57,900 the Fourier analysis of heart 143 00:06:02,490 --> 00:06:00,669 frequencies of omission and I just 144 00:06:04,890 --> 00:06:02,500 haven't done that here but I think I 145 00:06:07,290 --> 00:06:04,900 could add that I have heart rate 146 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:07,300 variability equipment but this was just 147 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:10,240 exploring an initial study to explore 40 148 00:06:16,170 --> 00:06:12,490 Hertz and higher consciousness and just 149 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:16,180 the beginning yes hi hi Beverly's Maria 150 00:06:23,339 --> 00:06:20,400 um great study I wanted to know 151 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:23,349 specifically your baseline activity what 152 00:06:27,629 --> 00:06:25,810 what did you have them do did you give 153 00:06:29,339 --> 00:06:27,639 them a specific instruct I did I gave 154 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:29,349 them a very specific instruction and I 155 00:06:32,579 --> 00:06:30,610 don't have that for you to read but it 156 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:32,589 was putting your mind in a neutral state 157 00:06:36,540 --> 00:06:34,479 not thinking about anything in 158 00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:36,550 particular from the past present or even 159 00:06:40,770 --> 00:06:39,039 going into the future to just main into 160 00:06:42,990 --> 00:06:40,780 it relaxed open eyed 161 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:43,000 gays without focusing actively in 162 00:06:47,730 --> 00:06:45,520 anything particular that was essentially 163 00:06:49,770 --> 00:06:47,740 it I don't I read something to them and 164 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:49,780 actually they also could look at it to 165 00:06:54,090 --> 00:06:51,970 be sure they understood it okay just and 166 00:06:55,730 --> 00:06:54,100 just one more thing quickly I'm glad to 167 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:55,740 hear that you had their subjective 168 00:06:59,670 --> 00:06:57,970 responses to even though they were hard 169 00:07:05,570 --> 00:06:59,680 to put into words that is so valuable 170 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:09,570 charlie humans you might think that when 171 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:11,290 people go into altered states they might 172 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:13,210 have increase in some of the lower 173 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:15,850 frequencies like theta and alpha and I 174 00:07:20,730 --> 00:07:17,320 wondered if there was a correlation 175 00:07:23,130 --> 00:07:20,740 between higher rates of gamma a higher 176 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:23,140 amplitudes of gamma and at the same time 177 00:07:27,570 --> 00:07:24,580 increase in some of the lower 178 00:07:31,380 --> 00:07:27,580 frequencies I didn't ask that question 179 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:31,390 in my study and nor did Davidson and his 180 00:07:34,890 --> 00:07:33,190 study and I can't remember whether looks 181 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:34,900 did this so these are the main studies 182 00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:37,260 in recent years on 40 Hertz and and 183 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:41,440 meditators again all of these things 184 00:07:49,020 --> 00:07:42,970 could be explored it's just a matter of 185 00:07:52,860 --> 00:07:49,030 taking more data simultaneously hi Billy 186 00:07:58,250 --> 00:07:52,870 why Nicole Stan I've done now close to 187 00:08:00,900 --> 00:07:58,260 20 subjects on the salvia divinorum a 188 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:00,910 preliminary report is being published in 189 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:02,290 Journal of neural therapy I presented 190 00:08:09,930 --> 00:08:06,310 last year at is NR and I haven't looked 191 00:08:12,420 --> 00:08:09,940 at gamma but a very consistent effect is 192 00:08:14,430 --> 00:08:12,430 suppression of power in all frequency 193 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:14,440 bands and sometimes there's an alpha 194 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:18,250 rebound during the return to ordinary 195 00:08:26,159 --> 00:08:23,290 reality state so I'd love to talk over 196 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:26,169 this data with you stuff now as I 197 00:08:32,850 --> 00:08:30,370 mentioned a better possibly entheogen to 198 00:08:34,909 --> 00:08:32,860 look at gamma is ayahuasca in in there 199 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:34,919 currently studies looking at that and 200 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:38,490 that state does produce a very enhanced 201 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:42,490 state of consciousness it's lasting 202 00:08:46,770 --> 00:08:45,730 several hours so there's a good place to 203 00:08:48,750 --> 00:08:46,780 look for that too 204 00:08:51,090 --> 00:08:48,760 have you found it to be contextual one 205 00:08:52,770 --> 00:08:51,100 with people under different experiences 206 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:52,780 of salvia because everybody has a 207 00:08:59,310 --> 00:08:54,810 different trip obviously 208 00:09:02,040 --> 00:08:59,320 salvia is such a powerful experience you 209 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:02,050 know with the extract you have the 210 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:03,730 people that can surrender to it 211 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:05,290 completely and then you have the people 212 00:09:10,139 --> 00:09:08,410 that don't let go the ones that 213 00:09:15,630 --> 00:09:10,149 surrender completely usually have a very 214 00:09:17,730 --> 00:09:15,640 positive experience I haven't you know I 215 00:09:19,530 --> 00:09:17,740 wish I recorded all of the reports 216 00:09:21,930 --> 00:09:19,540 because they were amazing descriptions 217 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:21,940 but none of them were along the lines of 218 00:09:27,269 --> 00:09:25,330 I had an enlightenment experience or I 219 00:09:30,030 --> 00:09:27,279 had a very high state of awareness or 220 00:09:33,980 --> 00:09:30,040 something they were mostly having to do 221 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:33,990 with distortions of space-time 222 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:36,310 that's right that's what I had in this 223 00:09:41,070 --> 00:09:38,170 particular case as well this particular 224 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:41,080 subject experienced herself get ready 225 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:45,250 for this yes as a crayon yes yes indeed 226 00:09:50,430 --> 00:09:47,770 where the pointed head and just a body 227 00:09:52,290 --> 00:09:50,440 like a cylinder and and was went through 228 00:09:54,329 --> 00:09:52,300 some anxiety whether she would it be a 229 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:54,339 crayon forever that's really bad 230 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:56,110 and so the beginning part of that